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Wargames => Warhammer 40k => Topic started by: Pottsey on June 01, 2012, 07:47:06 AM

Title: Can Vespids use transport tanks?
Post by: Pottsey on June 01, 2012, 07:47:06 AM
This is most likely a bad idea but I am looking to do something a little different and fun for a few friendly games. Can Vespid use tanks? I was thinking about using 1 or 2 Pathfinders with rail rifles to guard my deployment zone starting outside the tank or getting out in the scout move. Then turn 1 the Vespid
Title: Re: Can Vespids use transport tanks?
Post by: El ShasOcho on June 01, 2012, 11:30:08 AM
They cannot. Jump infantry may not use transports unless it directly states they can in the transport entry. You also cannot assault out of a devilfish as it is neither open topped or an assault vehicle.
Title: Re: Can Vespids use transport tanks?
Post by: Pottsey on June 01, 2012, 11:55:49 AM
Thanks for the advice. I guess is doesn
Title: Re: Can Vespids use transport tanks?
Post by: El ShasOcho on June 01, 2012, 12:14:53 PM
The thing about landspeeders is complete shinanigans. He made that up, there is no such rule.

I am pretty sure you can never assault out of tanks unless they are opentopped/assault vehicles. I would have to double check when the tank doesn't move, but Im pretty sure.
Title: Re: Can Vespids use transport tanks?
Post by: Mabbz on June 01, 2012, 12:42:44 PM
Quote from: Brother Perturabo on June 01, 2012, 11:30:08 AM
They cannot. Jump infantry may not use transports unless it directly states they can in the transport entry. You also cannot assault out of a devilfish as it is neither open topped or an assault vehicle.
Quote from: Pottsey on June 01, 2012, 11:55:49 AM
Thanks for the advice. I guess is doesn
Title: Re: Can Vespids use transport tanks?
Post by: El ShasOcho on June 01, 2012, 12:49:23 PM
That did seem right after I thought about it. I just have never done that, I also slightly misread his first post. The landspeeder thing is complete BS, I know that for sure. Can't say about 4th, but 5th its completely wrong.
Title: Re: Can Vespids use transport tanks?
Post by: Railgun Convention on June 01, 2012, 02:33:22 PM
Landspeeders simply aren't open topped, even though they really should be. End of.

They should, however, be reaaaally vulnerable to sniper weapons :P
Title: Re: Can Vespids use transport tanks?
Post by: InsaneTD on June 05, 2012, 01:25:16 PM
Not sure where the thing about power armour making things not count as opentopped came from. I think it might have been a 3rd ed rule cause I remember checking on that several times in 4th and could find mention anywhere. It was normally when someone shot out of a rhino top hatch I'd hear it.
Title: Re: Can Vespids use transport tanks?
Post by: Carrelio on June 05, 2012, 10:13:35 PM
In the old Daemonhunter's codex, the rule for rhinos was that the vehicle counted as being open topped unless it was transporting units in power armour.  I assume that is where the idea of closed top landspeeders came from.
Title: Re: Can Vespids use transport tanks?
Post by: Alpha_Wolf on June 07, 2012, 02:32:32 AM
not sure about land speeders, but I remember my friend's chaos dex says that rhinos have a top hatch, but do not count as open topped because of the power armor.