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Title: GWs New Look
Post by: Narric on April 09, 2014, 08:10:48 PM
Starting this thread off now, as currently the GW store is still down for Maintenance and possible upgrades/revamping.

What do you chaps think GW should change on their website?

I'd personally like to see more Hobby content beyond how to paint models that GW has already got in their museum :P Articles on how to really hobby, conversions, genuinely useful tips, that sort of thing.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Thantos on April 09, 2014, 08:30:37 PM
I second that. More lore, background hobby stuff. Id visit the site more often if it had useful stuff there rather than just a big catalog. (which is fine if you are wanting to make a purchase, but thats the only reason id visit in its current state)
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Cammerz on April 09, 2014, 08:31:45 PM
Quote from: Narric on April 09, 2014, 08:10:48 PM
Starting this thread off now, as currently the GW store is still down for Maintenance and possible upgrades/revamping.

What do you chaps think GW should change on their website?

I'd personally like to see more Hobby content beyond how to paint models that GW has already got in their museum :P Articles on how to really hobby, conversions, genuinely useful tips, that sort of thing.

So effectively a return to the original website which had huge amounts of hobby content including interactive Space Marine painters and Skaven name generators.
Something tells me they won't but it would certainly be great. I'd also like to know what the 'gifts' will be that their email said would appear alongside the updated webstore.

I reckon one of their biggest changes will simply be finding and replacing every mention of the 'Imperial Guard' with 'Astra Militarum'.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Narric on April 09, 2014, 10:30:12 PM
Is the sprue that is shown on the downtime image a recent/new product? Or do you think its a sneak peak at a future release?

(http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/images/coming-soon/games-workshop-classified.jpg)
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: CoffeeGrunt on April 09, 2014, 10:55:53 PM
New Space Marine Captain sculpt. All orders 80 Euros or over until the 4th May get one for free. A nice deal and something GW hasn't been known for before.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Narric on April 09, 2014, 10:58:26 PM
I remember when it was £10 per free postage. Was rather surprised to see it had gone up to £40 :P In a way it was understandable. I would often include a pot of paint just to make it over £10. Oddly not something I'm gonna criticize them for :P
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Deraj on April 10, 2014, 01:00:42 AM
Quote from: CoffeeGrunt on April 09, 2014, 10:55:53 PM
A nice deal and something GW hasn't been known for before.

About 4 years ago they did this with a badass sergeant standing on a broken stone aquila. It was a great sculpt and iirc that was the only way to get the model.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Narric on April 10, 2014, 08:24:44 AM
Well, the new site is up. Absolutely no chance of there being "Free" hobby advice. If you want hobby, buy White Dwarf.

One thing that is curious and possibly useful to some is the "Price Range" option. Other than that, it just feels like GW eBay.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: salamut2202 on April 10, 2014, 09:38:09 AM
Okay, it took me to 15 minuted to understand that mess but I have it figured out.

UGH, the white space - IT BURNS! My brain is now very very sad from seeing that. I think scrolling on /b/ leaves my mind more intact after that aesthetic vomit.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: The Allfather on April 10, 2014, 12:32:41 PM
It honestly doesn't even look like it's finished. Which is kind of typical for GW, apparently.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: The Man They Call Jayne on April 10, 2014, 01:20:32 PM
£11.99 for a book about Vortex Missiles? £0.99 for a book on Powerfists, or Volcano Cannons, or Vulcan Mega Bolters? WTF GW?
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Chris on April 10, 2014, 01:29:43 PM
I like the new look...
Looks cleaner and fresher.

The check boxes to close down on what your product is nice too.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: CoffeeGrunt on April 10, 2014, 02:10:53 PM
Quote£11.99 for a book about Vortex Missiles? £0.99 for a book on Powerfists, or Volcano Cannons, or Vulcan Mega Bolters? WTF GW?

I know, right? I can just about buy a candy bar for the price of one of those mini-ebooks! Absolute travesty, should be 10p each!
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: The Man They Call Jayne on April 10, 2014, 03:58:21 PM
I am more making the comment about the fact that they exist at all. Why do we need a book telling us the rules for Chainfists? They are in the main book already, anything else inthere is just fluff about just a specific weapon system. They don't need to exist.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Deraj on April 10, 2014, 04:27:25 PM
They don't 'need to.' Some people just like reading the fluff for stuff. Plenty of people enjoy the technical fluff of the game, so dropping a dollar or 2 on an interesting read isn't a big deal. Also they're really short, perfect toilet reads :P

Also; just want to point out that someone who plays a miniature game saying something 'doesn't need to exist' is just... a little funny.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: CoffeeGrunt on April 10, 2014, 04:36:46 PM
QuoteI am more making the comment about the fact that they exist at all. Why do we need a book telling us the rules for Chainfists? They are in the main book already, anything else inthere is just fluff about just a specific weapon system. They don't need to exist.

No rules, just fluff. Research what you hate before you hate it.

Why do they exist? Because people buy them. Why do people buy them? Because people like them.

Does it need to be anything more than that?
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Narric on April 10, 2014, 05:00:30 PM
Quote from: CoffeeGrunt on April 10, 2014, 04:36:46 PM
QuoteI am more making the comment about the fact that they exist at all. Why do we need a book telling us the rules for Chainfists? They are in the main book already, anything else inthere is just fluff about just a specific weapon system. They don't need to exist.

No rules, just fluff. Research what you hate before you hate it.

Why do they exist? Because people buy them. Why do people buy them? Because people like them.

Does it need to be anything more than that?
How about this:

Why do I need to pay £0.99 to £12 for fluff about a weapon system? Let alone an individual weapon system per purchase?

It would have made more sense to sell a full book on the technology and tech-fluff in a real book, such as the Imperial Guard Primer. While making shorter books for Kindles and the like does make sense, it is something I would have expected AFTER a full book has been released.

I can't deny that some people will buy them, but I can not agree with them being sold individually.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: CoffeeGrunt on April 10, 2014, 07:29:55 PM
While I would love a book detailing how the Tau weaponry and Armour works, as well as all the other technology, I dunno if we'd get it as some sort of compendium. Seems logical, but GW isn't logical.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Narric on April 10, 2014, 07:34:26 PM
Quote from: CoffeeGrunt on April 10, 2014, 07:29:55 PM
While I would love a book detailing how the Tau weaponry and Armour works, as well as all the other technology, I dunno if we'd get it as some sort of compendium. Seems logical, but GW isn't logical.
On this we can agree on :P
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: The Man They Call Jayne on April 10, 2014, 07:38:19 PM
If it were one big book, I would be very tempted myself. It just the pay per weapon nature of it that bugs me.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Tactical Genius on April 10, 2014, 10:48:52 PM
I see there is a whole lot more guard imfantry squad options now. Hmmm steel legion anyone?
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Deraj on April 11, 2014, 01:39:30 AM
Quote from: The Man They Call Jayne on April 10, 2014, 07:38:19 PM
If it were one big book, I would be very tempted myself. It just the pay per weapon nature of it that bugs me.

There are compendiums of them. I like the little ones better in actuality, but the big ones exist, and are comparably a deal.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Cammerz on April 13, 2014, 05:54:41 PM
I've just taken another look at the new site and I cannot for the life of me locate anything in the way of FAQs or Errata. This looks like a massive, glaring oversight on GW's side and I hope they make those available somewhere soon.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Will's on Fire on April 13, 2014, 07:25:01 PM
Yep they're currently not there. Like specialist games.

- Will
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Narric on April 13, 2014, 07:33:00 PM
Near anything for the Specialist games was gone from the site before the update. They're basically just made it clear they won't contiue them at all.

[edit]
Just a question, can anyone with an account still access it? I can't access mine.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Cammerz on April 13, 2014, 09:49:59 PM
Quote from: Narric on April 13, 2014, 07:33:00 PM
Just a question, can anyone with an account still access it? I can't access mine.

It states that any accounts for the old webstore don't carry over, you've lost anything that may have been on there and you need to make a new one.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Narric on April 13, 2014, 10:01:22 PM
Ah, ok :P

Not sure if I will though. Mostly used it for saving my cart. Nowadays I just browse GW, then hop over to TW and compare prices :P
Only thing I'd be buying from GW are the upgrade packs. So many lovely options for conversions there ^_^
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: Deraj on April 13, 2014, 10:26:42 PM
Quote from: Cammerz on April 13, 2014, 05:54:41 PM
I've just taken another look at the new site and I cannot for the life of me locate anything in the way of FAQs or Errata. This looks like a massive, glaring oversight on GW's side and I hope they make those available somewhere soon.

GW have stated that they will be putting those up on the site, but the site is still a work in progress. I was mildly worried about that as well.
Title: Re: GWs New Look
Post by: silverfuge on April 21, 2014, 04:16:37 PM
Faq/errata on the black library site I believe.